Hih holimna tungtawn in Zomite in namthu (Political) lamah khuamuhbehna leh kipumkhatna a khan zawkna ding lametna kinei hi. Holimpihna (Interview) tungtang ah hong panpih a kua maciat leh Sia Pau (ZRO ) tungah Zogamonline in lungdamna lianpi kinei hi.
ZOL: Chibai! Pu Pau. Nang toh ZogamOnline i houlim theih kipak ung. A patna dingin ZRO tanchin tomkin - ki-vaipuak dan leh sepaih phazah khong non hilh masa thei diam?
Sia Pau: ZRO kivai puakna pen fel hun tawk in ka thei. Democratic tak in aki pai a, zalen tak leh lauhthawnna om lo a ngaihdan (idea) gen theihna Pawlpi ahi hi. Gam le nam humbit ut nam it tuailaite chik lai hun peuh in ki ‘welcome’ den hi.
ZOL. Tuni tanin India ah nam bangzah in Zomi nomenclature a pom thei ua? ZC nuai a unau Gangte-te lutta chih tak simthu mah hia? Kawlgam lamin Zomi a pom thei vek uhia?
Sia Pau: I hihna Zomi ahi. Pom leh pom louh ah aki nga kei. Zomi identity a chiang nai lo pawl khat ki om lai in ka mu. Zomi Council nuai a omteng kia Zomi ahi zenzen kei.
ZOL: Nang huai chi, Kawlgam ah Tedim pau zangte in amau kia Zomi danin leh India ah Paite kampaute’n amau kia Zomi chih dana a ngaihtheih dingin Zomi kammal zang kha nak sek uhi. Hiai in thil tampi nawngkai sak thei leh kilawm nasa hia?
Sia Pau: Mi dam lo khat minor operation ngai pen major operation kibawl leh a dam lo pen a sih loh tawp in gim mahmah ding hi. Tua bangmah in major operation ngai pen minor operation kibawl leh hoih het lo ding hi. Tua tawh kitawn in minor leh major a khen dan i siam a hun mahmah ta.
ZOL: Mipi lamin khensiam hunta chidan maw.. Ahihleh Pawlpi tup-le-ngim tomkim in non hilh thei diam?
Sia Pau: Re-unification of the Zomi.
ZOL: India gam sunga Tripura leh Assam state khong a Zosuante toh kizopna hoihsem omna di’n pawlpi in panlakna a nei hia?
Sia Pau: Panlak theih dandan in kila!
ZOL: Mipi theihdan in, ZRO objective lak ah “geographical, political and social re-unification of the Zomi” chih ahi. Pawlpi tuppi pen Re-unification ahihna ah, tuni tanin bangtan a lohchinna om ahia?
Sia Pau: Tuhun chiangchiang in Zomi nam sung ah emotional/mental re-unification naktak in a om ta.
ZOL: Khenkhat in international boundary khenkham a Zomi teng huamkim zou Geographical Re-Unification baih lou diing ahihmanin Zomi-te omna mun chiat ah Political Re-Unification mah pibawl zaw in, administrative unit khat nuai ah omsak sawm chiat zaw le chi uhi. Nang bang ngaihdan na nei a, pawlpi’ tup-le-ngim apat kiakniamna ahi diam?
Sia Pau: Christiante khangthu a revolution thupi penpen bang hiam i chih leh Jesu hong pian ahi. Pasal naupang kum 2 nuai lam teng in sih loh! Revolution pen aman (price) tam mahmah. Tua ding a iki man a poimoh. Banah, Super Power tawi USSR kichi pen 1991 a pan om nawn lo. Politics ah a piang theilo a om kei a, a piang nai kei chih man ahi.
ZOL: Tuma lam deuh akipan in, Manipur a Singtangmi teng huam, Indian Constitution nuai a 6th Schedule Provision a om ding chih thu a ging a. Hiai thu ah ZRO dinna bang ahia leh?
Sia Pau: 6th Schedule Provision pen gam neih na khat chu a hi ve.
ZOL: Manipur leh Mizoram a Zomi pomte luahna mun teng UT a ki etkolna dia panlak ding gen pawl om thei zauh zel abang. Hiai pen ZRO tup-le-ngim toh akikalh kha diam?
Sia Pau: Dawnna 2na en kik nawn mah dih. Mizoram a teng Zo suante ngen ahi uh.
ZOL: Cultural or Social Re-Unification toh kisai ah, ZRO panlakna a om hia, a omleh a tomkim in non hilh thei diam?
Sia Pau: Cultural/social in Zomite a hon khen ngei nai kei. I tawndan/chiindan a kibang a, tua in minam khat i hihna hon sulang hi lo hiam.. Hiai tawh kisai in East leh West Germante ettawn tham a ching kasa. Tuni hun chiang in “Germany” chi in ah kituak tak in a om khawm ta uh.
ZOL: Aleh, tutan ah, overall a etin ZRO tup-le-ngimte bangzah mualsuah ahita a?
Sia Pau: Hunpaisa tawh et-in tu hun chiang in Zomi nam sung ah kipumkhatna a hoih mahmah ta.
ZOL: Zosuan pih – Mizo, Kuki, Chin chihte toh ZRO relationship bang ahia? Kitheihsiamna a om hia? Adiakin unau Kuki bang toh melhaih hun a ana kidou kha i hihna ah…
Sia Pau: Kinei mah ei. Kamsung a ‘lei-leh-ha’ zong kipet kha thei.
ZOL: ZORO, CNA, KIF chihte UN a Indigeneous People Forum khonga member hikhin vekta uh ahi hia? Huailam ah Zomi min a vai sai a om hia?
Sia Pau: ZORO pen Zo Re-unification Organisation chi in sim le chin na hon dotna a hon hilh chian mai diam maw….
ZOL: UPF tungtang ah lut sin le. A Chairman hi’n ko’n thei ua, UPF bang deihna a kiphut khia ahia?
Sia Pau: Zo suante Kipumkhatna leh Political Autonomy.
ZOL: KNO leh UPF kibatlouhna bang ahia? A mite a kibang, kipumkhat theilou a min khat pu theilou lel chih di a diam?
Sia Pau: UPF in issue based in kikal suan a KNO in nomenclature based kal suan in ka thei. Himahleh minam khat Zo suante ngen ihi.
ZOL: Aleh unau Kuki te’n Kuki State gen uh, UPF in huai mah sen hia ahihkeileh demand tuam nei?
Sia Pau: Political autonomy.
ZOL: India sorkal leh Nagate kihouna toh SoO in kisai khakna a nei diam?
Sia Pau: Nei lo.
ZOL: Video clip khonga i na muh danin Pu Chidambaram in Muvanlai Camp a veh lai in kithahna leh galbawlna tawpsan ding chih khawng leltak a gen abanga, political goal khong houlim kha mah ni u teh maw?
Sia Pau: A “leltak” kia a hi kei a Political solution a hi zaw.
ZOL: SoO pen Indian Army leh Nam Galkapte kikal thukhun chile, Indian Home Minister hilhial in hongveh ahihna ah nautang theih dia genkhiak tuak omlou hia?
Sia Pau: Home Minister hilhial in Zomite Camp hong veh ahih leh Zomi identity ah chiang in kipumkhatna suk hat sem sawm ni.
ZOL: Indian print media ah SoO pen Indian Government leh Kuki underground outfits ngen a kichi a, hiai ah Zomite le Kuki chihdan a ngaih ding a diam?
Sia Pau: UPF leh KNO nuai a om tengteng Zo suante ngen ahi.
ZOL: aleh UPF nuai a om pawlkhatin KNO zom uh chih bang a om zela. UPF nuai ah kuateng omlai ahia? Pawlpi lemsakna mah a va zom uh a diam?
Sia Pau: Koi pawl koi pawl ah om ta le, a mi kibang, tup-le-ngim kibang ngen ihi.
ZOL: UPF sung a pawl khat HPC(D) leh Mizoram Govt. in‘hiamkhamna thukhun’ bawl UPF in a theihpih mah hia?
Sia Pau: Kitheikha mah ei.
ZOL: Zosuante email group/website tuamtuam khawng a minam vai discussions a mimal in ngaihdan tuamtuam a gelhte uh sim kha thou ding hi u china, huaite bang ngaihdan na neia?
Sia Pau: Minam itna leh awlmawhna ziak a ngaihdan tuamtuam gelhte’n i minam hoihna ding in hon gelh zelzel un. Constructive leh destructive kikal bel a kua a kua in khen siam leng a hoih ding.
ZOL: ZRO hi media lam a hatlou a ngohna a om a, akhenin lah bangmah sep neilou ahih chiang ua media lama tangkou ding neilou uh ahi a chi uh. Mipite’n a nasep uh theilou, nam sepaihte’n bang sem a bang buaipih a ding uam chi a lungkiat kampau zak ding omom hi. Bang gennop na nei diam ah?
Sia Pau: “Paper Tiger” leh “Real Tiger” koi a hoih zaw dia…. ZRO in sun-mang (Day dream) kigengen khawllo a, zohna sa chiang bel kitak lang zel.
ZOL: Leitung paizia leng ahi dinga, kuapeuh materialistic gawp in sum-le-pai deihna lian ahihmanin tuni in kuama’n politics taktak le don nawnlou, pawlpi heutute leh nam sepaihte bangle minam politics sanga mahni lawkna ding ngaihtuah zaw uh ahi chih ngaihdan nei pawl a om. Bang a na comment?
Sia pau: Gilkial ngoihngoih kawm a nasep haksa ei ve.
ZOL: Tunai zekin UNO Khawmpi, Geneva ah Pu Kenneth makaih a vatel om chih a kiza a. Bang vai ahia, mipite adia mavanna leh kinepna om thei hia?
Sia Pau: Pu Calvin makaih in Geneva Call Seminar ah ki hoh mah hi. Childs & Women Rights tawh kisai a hi a zinna uh.
ZOL: India Zomite Meiteite hakkol apat a suahtak masiah uh khangtou ngeilou ding chih mi tampite ngaihdan ahi. ZRO in bang ngaihdan a nei a le?
Sia Pau: I hakkol puak i theih mah bang in, a sutkhiatna di’n khut kilen in kal suan khawm diamdiam thei le ut huai lua.
ZOL: Singtang dawna i mipihte nektawm zong leh khosak haksa petmah tampi om hi. Government a lah bangmah lamen phalou ahihman un pawlpi lam apan a lamet ding uh pawlpi in bang policy a nei ua, chimawk le.?Sia Pau: A hun leh a din mun et in pan kila.
ZOL: ZNC toh ZRO in bang chi sepkhawm ahia?
Sia pau: A mun tuak uah nam a di’n nasem. Kikalhna bang mah om lo.
ZOL: Burma leh India kikal gamgi venbitna toh kisai in Salphate panlakna phathuai mahmah chih kigen a om a; genbeh ding na nei kha zenzen hiam?
Sia Pau: Zogam vengbit kihi zaw lim ei ve.
ZOL: Tulai politics huihnun dan in Indian Government in Manipur a tribal-te Naga leh Kuki chihlouh mindang vuahlou abatna chiang om hileh a kilawm ton a om hi. Eipawl’ government in hon theiphalou chihna ahi diam?
Sia Pau: Dawnna 19na en kik mah dih.
ZOL: Meiteite hakkol apat suahtakna ngah mateng suakta taktak leh mahni kivaihawmna omthei ngeilou ding chih mitam takte ngaihdan ahi. ZRO in bang paidan a nei a le?
Sia Pau: No comment.
ZOL: Ahihleh, CoPTAM te’n Boundary overlapping thu ah Pawlpi’ dinna bang ahia, non hilh thei diam?
Sia Pau: Zomi/Zosuante luahna gam ZRO in theih tawp suah in a humbit ding.
ZOL: SoO Ground Rules ah “The constituents of UPF and KNO will abide by the Constitutions of India, the laws of the land and the territorial integrity of Manipur” chih a om. Politics a Zomi-te survive na di lampi omsun Sixth Schedule ahihkeh Article 244A nuai a ki-etkolna chihna hi mai lou maw? Hiai tungtang ah pawlpi ngaihdan/dinna na hon hilh thei diam?
Sia Pau: 6th schedule within Article 244 a huntawk nasa hia?
ZOL: SoO agreement/suai akikaih masak pen in Govt. of Manipur in theihpihlou, akichi. Tu’n tripartite talk akichi nawn a, GoM leng a tel-ta. Hiai tungtang ah kup behnop na nei hia?
Sia Pau: No comment.
ZOL: ZRO electoral politics (MLA/MP/MDC election) ah ki golh lua chi-a tamtakte hoihsaklouh thu akiza. Hiai tungtang ah gennop na nei hia?
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ZOL: Kawlgam politics dinmun leh future na muhdan?
Sia Pau: Democracy hoihtak a omna din zaw a gamla lai maithei.
ZOL: Kawlgam Zomite maban, Pu Cin Sian Thang-te ZNC bangtan tung thei dingin na ngaihsun a?
Sia Pau: No comment.
ZOL: Mimal thil ki dong sin le. Na hun-awl bang chin na zanga? Laisim leh laigelh khong na lunglut hia?
Sia Pau: Ka hun awl a manpha thei pen in ka zang gige.
ZOL: Kawlgam democracy Hong hileh bang na paikik nawn diam?
Sia Pau: ZRO policy ah Kawlgam/Vaigam a om kei. Zogam a om in kaki ngaihsun hi. Kawlgam Democracy ahih loh man a Pawlpi leh Nam a nasem ka hi kei.
ZOL: Mailam ah ZRO Presidenship tuh na sawm lai diam?
Sia Pau: ZRO President ka tuh ngei kei, President hihna kei liangko a hong kinga ahi zaw.
ZOL: ZRO heutu masate toh na ki thuzak zel uhia?
Sia Pau: Kithuzak tham e.
ZOL: Dot khaklouh mipite kianga gennop, vaikhaknop na nei hia?
Sia Pau: I minam hoihzawkna ding a hih peuh leh lauh nei lo in na ngaihdan hoih taktakte uh zalentak in hon gelh/gen/sung zelzel un.
ZOL: Na hun manpha na hon piak manin kipak ung. Hong damsawt inla, pawlpi le hong lamzang semsem hen aw.
Sia Pau: Kei le ka kipak.
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